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Post by Lover Boi Taylor on Aug 7, 2006 21:43:29 GMT -5
EA will never change...i repeat EA WILL NEVER CHANGE... I Kno people be saying "take tha friendly approach to try and encourage Electronic Arts Gaming to change a game for the betta....Ion See it happening unless EA gets a serious wake up call. As long as people are buying these games EA dont giva fuck about the Customers...Itz all about the Money...Datz there Main Focus and Function..PRIME EXAMPLE (Madden 06 Next Gen Release)...Man People Were taking tha Friendly and tha bashing approach to EA on tha www.easports.com/forums. Tha Only thing EA Reps were posting was some Sarcastic shit saying "Sorry to hear this and that about the gamee but over 80% of our buyers are Satisfied with the Next Gen release of this game BLAH BLAH" but in a more proper professional way. Madden 06 for tha 360 was tha worse madden ever yo...I liked Madden 93 betta den dat shit. I Will give EA credit though...Madden on the Reg. Xbox was great...Each year they added a new In Game feature for tha game but this Next Gen shit is killing them...and THEY FAIL TO SEE IT. Graphics over Gameplay is wat EA is doing nowadays. On anotha note....we talking about EA people...A Company dat continues to make "Arcadish" games and fail to realize Simulation Style...Everybody thought Superstar moves on NBA Live 06 was tha best feature EA came up with in tha Live series...Personally i hated that shit..And afta a while more and more people started to dislike tha feature cuz people started to Abuse It...How tha hell can Devin George from tha LA Lakers hit 3 And 1 .3 Pointers....1 Handed Fading Back?...2 Arcadish datz y A lot of headz Moved to 2K sportz for a more Simulation Style play..AND are Steady Posting about 2K possibly coming out wit a Boxing Series...Dey cant do shit wit EA and itz lock on tha license in the NFL...So more and more people will suffer from bullshit Madden unless EA can make a turn around with 07...Hopefully they will My Thoughtz On FNR3.... I Enjoyed tha fuck out this game from release. Day in and day out i was on playing this shit ask Mr Twenty 4. All day erryday between classes etc. But since my recent visit to tha online Community since May 8th this game has 2 many Arcadish Flaws. It makes me appreciate tha FNBF League right now. In a regular online day for me i would usually get in a Ton of Fights....Most of tha people would either Str8 up Box or Brawl Not Much Cheesy Play Going On. But Recently Itz crazy.... Tha first time i witnessed tha power of the Philly Shell Defense was against Intoccabile. First Round KO for him easily with a few parries and stun punches. But Man i was shocked to C errybody using either Sinister Cross Or Judge Jab. Tru disappointing Flaws on EA Sports Half that a Jab or a Str8 would be as powerful as a Hook or Uppercut (WTF). This shit pissed me off making tha fights long and boring basically a Jab Fest. Str8 Bullshit. I Basically Wut EA is doing is Adding New Features to there Sports Series and not taking the time to Fix/ Take Out Tha Flaws and Arcade Side Of The Game. By Now EA should know that the fans Crave a realistic Game..BUT THEY DONT. They Believe Graphics is Everything and Gameplay Iz Nothing. Wake Tha Fuck Up And Open Ya Eyes and Ears EA. We talking Realistic Aspects of the game in every way (Gameplay And Graphics etc.). EA Will Never Change....New Game New Features Same Flawz...Ova And Ova Again -EZ-
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Post by reignmaka on Aug 7, 2006 23:32:21 GMT -5
"We're trying to get the league recignition when the league can only go as far as the games community allows it.. and if the games community isn't that enthusiastic about making a BETTER community, the league will only go but so far."
This is the key right here. I'm glad you picked up on it. Personally, I feel the league, while highly important should take a back seat to the effort of building the community. What I mean by this, is not only focus on the league, but give people and gamers reasons to visit the site. Offer tips for gamers, most importantly the site should be n00b friendly.Here's the point though, its also important that RESPECT among users is demanded. There shouldnt be anyone dissing for bashing others users and dissrespecting them in anyway. I was kind of alarmed by the decision to allow open trash talk on the general boards. Especially considering the things I've already seen said to the other users.
As I've mentioned before, Im not trying to tell you how to run the site, that would be selfish. But I am encourgaging people to start setting the standard, for how a fan site could be ran EFFECTIVELY inorder to start bringing more people in.
I believe that this all starts with the Administators. I've spoken to people who often obsevered the FNBC boards, and they told me that they felt that many of the site's setbacks, came from issues with the administration. Again, this isnt a personal attack at anyone. And no individual was specified. But the key is BUILDING A COMMUNITY. This starts with establishing respect among users.
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Post by reignmaka on Aug 7, 2006 23:41:40 GMT -5
EA will never change...i repeat EA WILL NEVER CHANGE... My Thoughtz On FNR3.... I Enjoyed tha fuck out this game from release. Day in and day out i was on playing this shit ask Mr Twenty 4. All day erryday between classes etc. But since my recent visit to tha online Community since May 8th this game has 2 many Arcadish Flaws. It makes me appreciate tha FNBF League right now. In a regular online day for me i would usually get in a Ton of Fights....Most of tha people would either Str8 up Box or Brawl Not Much Cheesy Play Going On. But Recently Itz crazy.... Tha first time i witnessed tha power of the Philly Shell Defense was against Intoccabile. First Round KO for him easily with a few parries and stun punches. But Man i was shocked to C errybody using either Sinister Cross Or Judge Jab. Tru disappointing Flaws on EA Sports Half that a Jab or a Str8 would be as powerful as a Hook or Uppercut (WTF). This shit pissed me off making tha fights long and boring basically a Jab Fest. Str8 Bullshit. I Basically Wut EA is doing is Adding New Features to there Sports Series and not taking the time to Fix/ Take Out Tha Flaws and Arcade Side Of The Game. By Now EA should know that the fans Crave a realistic Game..BUT THEY DONT. They Believe Graphics is Everything and Gameplay Iz Nothing. Wake Tha Fuck Up And Open Ya Eyes and Ears EA. We talking Realistic Aspects of the game in every way (Gameplay And Graphics etc.). EA Will Never Change....New Game New Features Same Flawz...Ova And Ova Again -EZ- I agree that there are several exploits that hurt this game, I think the only thing that can be done right now is, to play people who do not use them. There are still exploits in Madden, and there are sites like thats that do not allow them. I know for a fact that EA does care about exploits, you can watch the Madden PPV about that. But as far as Fight Night is concerned, just dont play those people if you can help it. It might not seem if Ea cares, but Im sure they do. We just have to band together and build in numbers. The more people we have, the better. I have a few Ideas on how we can make this happen. Intoccabile, SNA, ChillPill...I'll Pm ALL of you my ideas.
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Post by GiZmO on Aug 7, 2006 23:52:42 GMT -5
Yea...Start by deletin all the damn people who dont post in hea...And i think we need a new administrator to keep up to date rankings man...Fuckin SNA busy wipin ray pats ass and wont update shit.
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Post by SryNoAutographs on Aug 8, 2006 19:54:21 GMT -5
Gizmo i cant update every second buddy
I got shit to do.....
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Post by intoccabile on Aug 8, 2006 20:36:15 GMT -5
Think of them as weekly updates giz. SnA's busy. Notice he hasn't even been "whiping" Rays ass. I havn't seen a promotional post from him in some time now. He's busy, let'em breathe..
Reign. It's funny how you made some points that, although extremely obvious and simple? Are also extremely true. Having tips an what not and other things that are a bit more gamer friendly, maybe videos and things of that nature.. the idea must have been thought of a billion times.. but I just didn't see the reason to it. Then it hit me. FNBC had all of that.. and had a HUGE community (even before teh game released), but thats where it ended. Because of its complicated system it was damn near impossible to run and didn't go near as far as we hoped. But your a hundred percent right about some of the things needed to attrack people more.
Another thing you mentioned is the "trash talk". Most of us here were members of the FNBL, which was run by the FNBC guys last year for FIght Night Round 2. The league was no holds barred, and was some of the most fun ALOT of us had in a long time. It's the reason why we all joined FNBC and are in the FNBF today.
The FNBC was a more commercialised league. It was extremely domesticated and that ruinned the appeal for alot of guys. Since they were sponsored by Gamespy there was only but so much we could do, swearing, trash talking, it all had to be limited ALOT. Because of that the league just wasn't as fun anymore. There were tons of things changed that made our experiences so much better. Although the change wasnt for the worse, it ended up being for that. I swear the FNBC seemed like a grave yard. Extremely boring place to be, no personality.
Once the FNBC went down SNA decided to start something to keep us gamers happy, and active in "league competition", what most of us have come to love. In doing so, he also wanted to go back to the roots, the no holds barred approach, and run this league the way the FNBL was run last year. This is why the trash talk is allowed. No barriers has actually what attracts people "more", but the way we approach it IS a bit extreme sometimes.
I guess the thing is, we expected the guys from the past site to return.. we expected to have the same faces that made FNBL so great and everythign be fine. We didnt expect oppertunities to arise where we had a chance to better/enhance the FN community, attract more gamers, and possibly inluence EA to better next years game.
With all that in mind now I'm sure a few changes can be made - it's SNA's call though.
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Post by reignmaka on Aug 9, 2006 0:10:00 GMT -5
I appreciate the consideration of my ideas Intocc, and again, Im not trying to tell you guys how to run things. But I think we can get a better game out of it all if we work together. I know it feels better to speak freely and such, but I think it looks bad, when people just type F@#$ for the hell of it. But thats just me. I've never been more willing to devote my time than I am now. I dont think the Fnbc did anything wrong, I just feel that more things should have done as far as the Administration was concerned.
As long as respect among users, is established...then I think things will be fine. I dont think a site being commercial friendly is bad thing, and if anything I think both sites could be used. Fnbc for the public, and FNBF be sort of a "underground" league where the hardcore gamers and fans fight. I realize you know this, and we are essentially saying the same thing. But I think we should try to build things. I see the potential in both sites, and since they are "merged" I think that they should rebuild the Fnbc, but make it as a user-friendly "fansite" and keep the FNBF as it is, and let it be the leauge. Not everyone will fight in it ofcourse, but people can use the Fnbc as a place to get tips, read user submitted articles, and have it welcome for developers to stop by. Both sites could be like the ying, and the yang. LOL. I dont watch wrestling but it could be like WWE, and ECW. You feel me?
Think about it, while you might have thought nothing had really been accomplished YOU GOT A SPONSER FROM A GAMING SITE! Thats a big step, we can let the Fnbc die...hell I try and run it myself, with everyone's help of course. I dont know much about doing webpages but we can make something happen. We cant have both, Intocc, SNA we can get it done ya'll. Let me know what you think.
Oh and we can get people for both sites. But a fansite and a league site.
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Post by intoccabile on Aug 9, 2006 2:15:38 GMT -5
Not really much I can say now. You summed up alot of thoughts that I had come up after my previous post. Talk to PRGUY on info as to where the FNBC is concerned. You've got some huge ideas, some people would consider them far fetched considering we're working to enlarge a community for a game by "EA" LOL. But their great ideas man, and its that type of input and time that your willing to devote that is needed to make such ideas come to life. I feel a little confident about the future for both the league and Fight Night now. Thats weird. I'm truly a skepticist when it comes to anything "positive" happening where EA is concerned, I have to see to beleive. It's weird that i can just have a conversation with someone and suddenly catch a drift of enthusiasm. Says alot about your ideas and the aura you have when presenting them. Definately speak with PRGUY and SNA and I'm sure something huge can happen. But to answer something you said. " I know it feels better to speak freely and such, but I think it looks bad, when people just type F@#$ for the hell of it. But thats just me. " Lol. Your right, that is just you . I don't think anyone else has a problem typing out "fuck" Lol, j.k.
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Post by reignmaka on Aug 9, 2006 2:38:41 GMT -5
Yea, I used to cuss like a sailor, I guess it IS just me...lol But yea I'll catch up with PRguy and SNA asap!
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