HATTON VS COLLAZO TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

[intoccabile]

Exactly.. Just like WINKY was "battered and beate"n against solimon.
It doesnt matter, he won the damn fight.

and Dirty.. you should really read my posts..
I sat here and said hatton isnt great, noir does he have any great "skill".
So where is the disagreeing on the topic?

Then i stated a fact.. although he isnt great or doesnt have skill
he gets the job done (41-0..so thats a fact)
and his style is a frustrating one.. he nevers lets you breathe
with pressure, body shots, and clinching... there fore you wont get comfortable.

I showed unbias for my favorite boxer.. let you still show bias TOWARD him,
even though we are clearly agreeing with each other.. you just fell to see it.
The only disagreement we are having are the Match ups.

Frisco. im really ashamed of you man because your a boxer.
you know more than ANYTHING..

You can beat the hell outta someone sparring..
Then watch the same cat yu merked, merk someone else.
Then that cat that got merked by the cat YOU merked?
Can turn around and merk YOU.

Styles make fights.
Hatton vs Collazo is no reason for floyd to duck
anything.. When its arguable that Collazo can handle
hattons style.. but PBF would react different to it.

I also said.. that collazo is 2 times teh fighter hatton is in terms of skill(am i wrong?)
and hatton was truly tested that night and he won.

PBF is 4 times the fighter hatton is in terms of skill..
that doesnt mean he cant get the job done.
On paper most fights are ugly.. but at teh end of teh day
its the fighters performance that counts. and pbf might fold
under that type of pressure

[popit]

thats exactly right man. best example is legendaryking hes level 29 im level 23 hes the lightheavywe3ight champ and im not. i put him down he put me down to the canvas too. but at the end of the day im the one having the belt coz he became stupid and was not thinking. now hes not gonna participate in here anymore coz hes a lil bizzle. LOL that means a win is a win and no matter how ugly the win is it is still a win. LOL

[d1rtyfeet]

intoccabile said:

Exactly.. Just like WINKY was "battered and beate"n against solimon.
It doesnt matter, he won the damn fight.

and Dirty.. you should really read my posts..
I sat here and said hatton isnt great, noir does he have any great "skill".
So where is the disagreeing on the topic?

Then i stated a fact.. although he isnt great or doesnt have skill
he gets the job done (41-0..so thats a fact)
and his style is a frustrating one.. he nevers lets you breathe
with pressure, body shots, and clinching... there fore you wont get comfortable.

I showed unbias for my favorite boxer.. let you still show bias TOWARD him,
even though we are clearly agreeing with each other.. you just fell to see it.
The only disagreement we are having are the Match ups.

Frisco. im really ashamed of you man because your a boxer.
you know more than ANYTHING..

You can beat the hell outta someone sparring..
Then watch the same cat yu merked, merk someone else.
Then that cat that got merked by the cat YOU merked?
Can turn around and merk YOU.

Styles make fights.
Hatton vs Collazo is no reason for floyd to duck
anything.. When its arguable that Collazo can handle
hattons style.. but PBF would react different to it.

I also said.. that collazo is 2 times teh fighter hatton is in terms of skill(am i wrong?)
and hatton was truly tested that night and he won.

PBF is 4 times the fighter hatton is in terms of skill..
that doesnt mean he cant get the job done.
On paper most fights are ugly.. but at teh end of teh day
its the fighters performance that counts. and pbf might fold
under that type of pressure

styles do make fights...a slick boxer is not a good matchup for hatton..floyd will box hattons brains off...plain and simple..

[d1rtyfeet]

popit said:

hatton won that fight right?

barely...

[popit]

barely or not a win is a win

[d1rtyfeet]

popit said:

barely or not a win is a win

well considering the hype going on around hatton...BARELY doesn't cut it when you're expected to win by knockout against a HAND PICKED opponent..

[intoccabile]

styles do make fights...a slick boxer is not a good matchup for hatton..floyd will box hattons brains off...plain and simple.. - Frisco Slugger


Lmfao.
Like i said.. ON PAPER fights are ugly.
Frisco dont be dumb.
PBF has teh style for hatton,
but who's to say hatton doesnt have the style for PBF?..
Stop being so bias.. this BOXING.

ON PAPER PBF is the superior and will win
with great boxing.. But NO ONE knows how PBF will react
to the clinching, excessive pressure and body shots.

So on paper its PBF's fight obviously..
but until he's up against hattons "techniques"
we'll never know if he can take that type of
fight..

Are you not understanding what i am saying?

Here.. let me make it a little more simple for you,
because you seemto be clueless right now.. your obviously
a "fights-on-paper"enthusiast and fell to see fighters have weaknesses
aswell as strengths.. and hattons style just may be PBF's weakness.


So here.
Couple seasons ago, Buccaneers were favorites TWICE
Over the Philadelphia Eagles.. but were clearly the better team
on Paper. Better Starters, better positions, better match ups.

The problem in this game was the Eagles had home field advantage.
The buccs are teh better team, but are never good in the COLD
because they are in tampa. Eagles win an easy game, because the buccs
couldnt adjust to the weather.

Understand me now?
On paper PBF is great, and hattons superior without a doubt.
But can he adjust to the weather? He's never fought someone
with a style remotely close to ricky's.. we'll never know
if he can get comfortable while be grabbed, pushed, n punched.

[popit]

but PBF will duck hatton and hatton will duck PBF coz both of them feel they dont wanna be humiliated by each other. if they do fight, i think hattons pressure is too much for PBF just like holyfields pressure to tyson in clinching and pushing was too much. PBF is a finesse fighter and finesse fighters dont wanna get hurt and be bang on. i think hatton will win if this happen. but again i dont see this fight happening until they will be on the downhill of thier career, for right now these two will be ducking each other.

[intoccabile]

as far as barely winning for hatton.

115 - 112 (i had it 114 - 113), is not a "barely" winning situation
considering the match up.

Sure collazo was hand-picked, for a victory (which ricky got)
Not for a KO. They are seeking the tough fights.. Collazo
on "paper" and on tape is a slick-boxer and a southpaw.
Both hatton has NO experience with, and no luck with.. so by
no means was this meant to be an easy fight.. this was
clearly a test.

But collazo suprised hatton by not showing anything
that you see on tape. COllazo is a pivett, slip, jab & move
type of fighter (think Old Oscar, Ray Leonard),
but he came in this fight standing still.. theres a ruinned game plan
against a fighter who is already your superior in terms of skil.

This wasnt meant to be a day of school for hatton,
it WAS meant t obe a test.. and he past it.

Maussa was also a bit of trouble for hatton for a while.
hatton has been getting tough fights, this is what he wants.
and he gets the job done.. plain and simple.

[popit]

as a subscriber of a lot of boxing magazines and boxing website such as boxingtalk.com boxinginsider.com and sorts and an avid fan of boxing for 25 years not to count my first 3 years in life that is. ive read so much about boxing and have seen a lot too. from mike tysons first title when he was 19 from duran, hagler, leonards ending years, thomas hearns muhamad ali, larry holmes, micheal sphinx and too many to mention. for me intoccabiles analysis in all these fights are correct, im not saying frisco's are wrong. PBF is somewhat overated and being babied too much by the media snce this guys has been with boxing since he was in his mothers womb. PBF is great but not the greatest i can see DLH beating him for me, easy. vernon forrest's unorthodox awkward style might beat him MIGHT. hatton was put into a great test against collazo and intoccabile is right, what hatton practiced and was expecting for months of training for this fight was totally incorrect on fight night and collazo's team did a great job in keeping thier gameplan a secret until fight night. hatton won the fight and a lot of people criticized him for this as they were expecting a knock out victory but didnt happen. bottom line is he got the job done and went home with a victory, an addition to his already impressive career.

[intoccabile]

DIrtyfeet.. how good is your boxing history?..
Billy Conn vs Joe Louis..ring a bell? if not..
let me break it down fo ryou.

Take a good look at their
career records.

JOE LOUIS : 69 - 3 - 0 (55ko's)
Billy Conn : 64 - 12 - 1 (15kos)
Joe - The stalker.. Counter Puncher. A "true" heavyweight, and a great fighter
and champion.

Billy Conn - Started as a welterweight.. through his career he moved up, becoming
a lightheavyweight champion.

The fight -
Well.. On PAPER this was anymans fight, people had never seen seen Joe fight
a style like COnn's before. But the biggest thign was the weigh ins. Joe Louis actually weighed
204lbs for the fight, where Conn weighed in at 164. (164!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

This a man with NO knock out power (you see his stats)
against the BROWN BOMBER for cryin gout loud.. and they are weighing 40 pounds
apart.. WHAT THE FUCK?.. right?

Guess what.. Conn won this fight for 12 rounds before he let
his irish pride get teh best of him and tried slugging.
But what needs to be known is that a man with no power,
weighing 40 pounds less.. ROCKED the champion jo elewis NUMEROUS
times in the bout.

Now.. COllazo vs Hatton.
Collazo (no power you say, right dirty?)
also the MUCH bigger man in height, and natural weight
and strength versus hatton.. you know what.. ill just
stop right there.. i think you see where i am going.

WHats on paper is bull shit.
It's what happends in the ring, a fighters reactions
to certain styles that matter most..


Joe Louis vs Arturo Godoy..

his guy came in to the fight against joe with a record of
53 - 8 - 7!!

See that? 17 people before joe had the stregy to cause losses, or Draws.

Onpaper this is joes fight without a DOUBT, he'll knock this guy out with no problem (joe was
in his prime at the time)

But in the ring.. it was the first time joe fought someone who could move
in circles, and would TAUNT joe. This fight went a contraversial 15 rounds for
a split decision which joe won.. but it just goes to show...

on paper a fight is nothing. in the ring a fighter has weaknesses.
Joe couldnt handle the runner, the unorthodox, the guys who
would taunt him.. they made him uncomfortable.

Who's to say PBF can handle the pressure, the clinching,
the body punching?

On paper fights are ugly frisco.
but history is history for a reason.
it repeats itself.

[d1rtyfeet]

LOL so what you're saying is due to the fact that the unthinkable happened....it will happen in every case? 90% of the time the paper is correct....AND PLEASE...we live in the 21st century and we have the luxury of looking at VIDEOS!!! Have you seen COLLAZO FIGHT? That man hammers a lot of his opponents but they dont go down!!! KIND OF LIKE JUAN DIAZ!!! I think it's safe to say JUAN does not have KNOCKOUT power!!! You trying to tell me that just because fights don't go as you plan them to, the paper and videos lie? FACT is COLLAZO is NOT a knockout puncher and if he hurt haton due to the fact that hatton was facing a REAL WWELTER..so be it....it SCARES me what A REAL REAL welter will due...ALA dlh and MOSLY...MOSLY WENT UP TO 154 AND HE MAMANGED TO FUCK UP VARGAS...SHANE AT 147!!!! GET OUT OF HERE!!