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Post by d1rtyfeet on May 13, 2006 12:45:53 GMT -5
Who's going to take this one guys? This is Hatton's first fight in the USA...Will Collazo expose him and pull off the upset?
Tune in!!
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Post by SryNoAutographs on May 13, 2006 14:40:53 GMT -5
I don't know but I'm definetly going to watch this one, BTW it's on HBO
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Post by popit on May 13, 2006 19:15:37 GMT -5
HATTON WILL WIN THIS. ABOUT 7-8 ROUNDS BY TKO
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Post by keeganjacobs on May 14, 2006 11:28:53 GMT -5
HEY INTOC, your hatton got exposed last night and you know it !! ive told you that british style boxing that just comes in forward and CLINCHES AND THEN THROWS HOOKS TO THE BODY WITH 1 ARM HOLDING THE OTHER FIGHTER AND THEN THROWING A HOOK WITH
THE OTHER ARM IS ILLEGAL AND THATS WHAT HATTON DOES and will get exposed against a skilled boxer just like last night ....i had it COLLAZO winning hte fight by 2 rounds i just cant give credit to hatton because all he does is clinch if he would be a BRUISER like frazier that came in and threw HOOOKS for 12 rounds without CLINCHING then i would give him credit
BRITISH STYLE BOXING WONT WORK IN THE STATES ....what is british style boxing? what is british boxing u may ask? come in and clinch and throw some wild hooks while holding 1 arm.lol
PBF would walk over hatton ...147 is not too much for hatton hes always at 160 in his fights or 155 so 147 he can but after this fight a fight he got exposed against a skilled boxer he will run back to 140.
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Post by SryNoAutographs on May 14, 2006 12:19:33 GMT -5
Keegan's right, PBF would destroy hatton.
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Post by d1rtyfeet on May 15, 2006 1:14:24 GMT -5
It was evident that Ricky Hatton could not execute what he was famous for. I remember it was in the first round and Hatton started ramming his head and he was warned. When Collazo got in his groove and Hatton was not able to hold and hit he looked to his corner however he knew there was nothing to be complaining about because you can't hold and hit. The USA is a whole different game and I fear for Hatton if he goes up against the likes of Mayweather, DLH, Mosley and Margarito.
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Post by intoccabile on May 15, 2006 1:46:06 GMT -5
Keegan, no exposure here.
People need to NOT sleep on Callazo. Collazo IS a great fighter, and definately the stronger and bigger fighter. Hattons 5'6", fighting a TRUE welterweight.. I thought he did great considering teh differences.. and considering HE is TAILER MADE for a guy like Collazo.
hattons biggest problem in this fight was his punch output. I twas VERY low compared to usual, he wouldnt let his hands go AT ALL. This was out of caution.. as soon as he found out how much different it is at 147, his gameplan had to change entirely.
I was actually more impressed than anything keegan. Please go watch some hatton fights before you say he's been "exposed". You'll clearly see, the fight looked like all his other fights.
With him punching less, and this time being teh weaker fighter.
No exposure here, just a true test. and a test that he past.. GO HATTON!!
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Post by intoccabile on May 15, 2006 1:52:29 GMT -5
And dirty.
I dont fear hatton vs PBF not one bit. Pbf i smore hattons size.. hatton is actually naturally teh bigger guy. PBF jumping from lightweight, to junior welter, then welter.
He's not near the physical specimen that collazo is NATURALLY. Hatton can muscle PBF more, and not worry about anything else. When he see's that pbf is the weaker guy physically, he'll open up more.
On top of that, PBF doesnt like close exchanges, that goes in hattons favor alot. A tremendous workrate is what beats a guy like PBF, hatton has it. People need to realize, like hatton said.. Collazo is not a bum, he's a legitimate threat and true welterweight champion although unknown.. he'll give anyone trouble and beat most top fighters any day of the weak.
Against mosely? Mosely is diminished. He doesnt open up as much as he used to, he doesnt hit hard AT ALL he'l NEVER keep hatton off, mosely will fold.. he doesnt even move like he used to.. Mosely is easy work for ricky.
Oscar is a definate No-No. Peopl esleep on oscars power because he is a "boxer" But when h eplants his feet, he is easily one of the hardest hitters the sport has ever had. His power is a blind power too.. he'll tear you rhead off when you least expect it.. like after you mess a punch.
Margirito?.. Frisco are you kidding? Rito has the slowet hands in any division. He has no workrate, and because he's so tall.. it puts the body-beating ricky hatton at a huge advantage. He can slip punches easier. and he gets a whole lotta body to eat up.
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Post by intoccabile on May 15, 2006 2:01:02 GMT -5
and one more message for keegan.. 3 and final post.
Run back to 140? Sure he will.. he said he will. he said he will if a tough 140 fight approached. Cotto, or Castillo (who fight in novemenber).
lets be real keegan. Hatton fought a REAL 147 pounder.. and a champion at his first attempt. Pbf took the safe route and beat a past-it sharmba mitchell.
The one true welterweight, and champion pbf fought.. he was exposed by i dont care what anyone says.
The first five rounds, zab mad pbf look like a kid.. even knocked him down with a WEAK hook, just because pbf was stepping in. Zabs downfall was he stopped fighting an dstart taunting.. mentally there is somethign wrong with this cat.
Now, lets move down some.. pbf vs castillo. a CONTRAVERSIAL victory the first fight. PbF's NATURAL weight. Thats the fight that Hatton will fight.. and that is NO walk in the park.
as for clinching. did you not see the ton of headlocking done by collazo? Hattons style isn't to Grab and Hit the body.. you get it confused. It's to grab, and hit on the BREAK because THAT is not illegal. Its to smuther people, put them in discomfort zones.. which
happened at teh very begining of the fight. You can never get comfortable against ricky, he's always moving foward.
Floyd couldnt get comfortable against zab until late.. and zab is a boxer.. he gives floyd room.
Beleive me.. once hatton keeps moving foward eating everything thrown at him, floyd will not get comfortable.. and that is anyones fight for that reason alone.
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Post by intoccabile on May 15, 2006 2:19:47 GMT -5
lets also keep in mind, Collazo is a southpaw.
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Post by keeganjacobs on May 15, 2006 14:19:30 GMT -5
intoc , 1st off go back and watch the ZAB and PBF fight ....how can you say he made PBF look like a kid in the first 5 rounds? woow....he got beat in the first 2 rounds and taht was it
PBF adjusted and just demolished ZAB the rest of the way and if taht FIGHT DIDNT BRAKE OUT , and i think it gave LIFE back to zab then he wwas finished
as for HATTON ....ive seen his fights by the way intoc ....i thought KOSTA was the better fighter and more accurate puncher than HATTON but all those damn british people GO CRAZY WHEN HATTON THROWS WILD HOOKS AND A LOT OF THEM ARE MISSED HOOOKS but
i guess the judges love the AGGRESSION EVEN WHEN HE MISSES , this is why i thought he got outboxed by COLLAZO, cause collazo had the better defense in movement and just countered HATTON APPROACHES BY SHORT HOOKS TO THE HEAD
hatton has a better chance at 140 and can beat anybody there but at 147 i dont see him beating PBF OR MARGARITO because MARG is a legit true 147 pounder and i think will break HATTON DOWN IN THE LATE ROUNDS LIKE COLLAZO DID
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Post by KOArtist on May 15, 2006 16:18:57 GMT -5
Yeah man, Hatton needs some more work in the gym w/ some speedy southpaws, he was eating that right hook all night. He seemed about as good at avoiding the southpaw right hook as Wlad was at avoiding the southpaw straight left (Corrie Sanders style) lol. I was wondering though...anyone here know about Collazos one loss to "Sippiani" or whatever his name was? I see it was a TKOBy3....but then I see that it was Jay Nady's faggot ass reffing that night. Was it a typical Nady style premature stoppage or anything, or did Collazo truly get bitched?
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Post by d1rtyfeet on May 15, 2006 17:02:22 GMT -5
You people fail to understand that Hatton cant pull off the shit he is famous for anymore...Margarito is a HUGE power puncher...if collazo...a guy with 12 KNOCKOUTS ONLY almost knocked HATTON out...im in fear of what Margarito will do to the poor lad...it's so evident that Hatton is shit at this weight...especially since hes fighting in the USA he cant HOLD and HIT...Shane will tear hattons ass up as will PBF, DLH , AND MARGARITO..
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Post by intoccabile on May 16, 2006 2:57:21 GMT -5
i didnt read all the posts, but will. first i have to touch on you keeg.
I disagree, i dont have floyd winning any of the first five rounds except the 4th. I have zab outboxing floyd with better movement, and quicker hands up until the the turning point, which is when he startedfighting only 30 seconds left in each round.
It took floyd 5 rounds to get comfortable against a guy who gave him tons of room. Against hatton, it will play out much like his fight with Castillo did. Are you still disagreeing?
as for any hatton skeptics. I repeat... no exposure.. just a true test, one that hatton past. The guy is 5'6".. he cant box from the outside and do all that fancy shit.. his arms are short.. he'd have to longe on every hook in order to catc hsomeone. So his best bet is to grab people, keep them in one place.. then let his short arms get some hits in.
ANy fight he takes is tough for him because he's a midget. Collazo is no different, and collazo is damn good.. he proved it.
Whati got from hattons performance was much like Winky vs Soliman. It wasnt all that big a fight so they didnt train all that hard.. ultimately making for a less-than-stellar performance.. but still a victorious one none-the-less.
Notice hattons punch output this fight was VERY low. and he can easily be accused of fatigue, his workrate and endurance is supposed to be the best in the last 2 decades, yet he looked gassed several times in the fight. It's obvious he undertrained.
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Post by intoccabile on May 16, 2006 3:04:34 GMT -5
Dirty... Look at Shane vs Vargas.
Shane was very UNIMPRESSIVE. The old shane would have made vargas look like a amateur.. yet somehow the fight was SO CLOSE.. for WHAT REASON?
The man just does jabs now, and very seldom combinations. He used to flurry like a mufucka. He has no power to keep hatton off him. Theres no way in hell shane will win.
Once again.. people complain on hattons grabbing techniques. Its part of his workrate.
He puts people in discomfort zones.. TONS OF DISCOMFORT. Never let them get situated or comfortable, the referee for this fight didnt allow all the clinching. Other referee's do.. (John Ruiz wrestled for years)
So it has alot to do with the referee Dirty.. NOT the fact that the fight was in the states.
Margirito vs hatton. YAWN, once again. He'll work margirito to death. The excessive foward movement, grabbing, n body work will drain margirito. He has a very calm workrate.. so if he doesnt finish hatton early, and the fight goes a decent distance at hattons pace, he'll drain.
Sure he's a power puncher, but he's not a slicker boxer liekcollazo. Difference here is he'll be moving foward like hatton. He's TALL. Too tall.. watch the vids.. the reason his swings are so slow are because he connects on his power shots from a distance, using the full length of his arm. If hatton keeps space between them to a minimum he wins this fight.. he's better with short exchanges.
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