Winky Vs JT

[ctheprodigyb]

... well it was a good fight, i watched it and scored it fairly, i thought JT would have won the fight EASY if he would have stayed off the ropes as he dominated Wright in the middle of the ring. But i still think JT did enough to get the UD or atleast a SD... i had the fight scored 8 rounds to 4 for JT alot of them were close but i thought Taylor was more active and was hurting Winky with his shots more.

But it was a DRAW so Taylor is still champ, in the post fight interview Winky said "Vargas all over again" and "i dont want no rematch" i def wouldnt say this was Vargas all over again i think the draw is fair even though i believe Taylor won with a good margin...as far as a rematch i would like to see it but i dont see the fight going any different except for Taylor staying in the middle of the ring and winning a EASY UD... but after hearing Winky say he didnt want one if i was Taylor i wouldnt give it to him.

[intoccabile]

I had it a very close fight. I liked Winky's precision over taylors power.
Taylor unloaded alot, but i have t okeep in consideration of the styles
and winky puts those hands up and stands infront of you for a reason.
Taylor unloaded, and lots of shots hit the arms and gloves.

I had it a draw too eventually, with taylor winning the final round.

[d1rtyfeet]

winky gave the final round up..dancing and shit...fucking idiot..

[ctheprodigyb]

I agree it was very close and though i had it 8 to 4 a few of those were coin flips...but i honestly think JT did enough and if you go to other boards people acting like this is the biggest robberyever and that Winky dominated... i think a Draw was fair if anything JT should be upset...

I hope there is a rematch tho

[intoccabile]

I was talking to dirty and others about something, what do you think Prodigy.
PBF wanted Winky before at 154.
I'm not sure if he'd still take it (after tonight, or for othe reasons)
I'm not even sure if winky would like to step back to that weight.

But if the money was right, and winky is serious about
not wanting the rematch.. could you see this happening?

I'd like to see this.
I saw wink beating taylor but started to get PLENTY of doubts and ended up
very impressed.. I'd like to say the same would happen again.. but now i really
see winky getting merked lol... but i think it could bring in some
good money and would be a great fight.

(Assuming PBF fights Oscar at 154 as planned in September.. he'd
already be in a good position)

[mdterp]

I had winky winning the fight 8 rounds to 4. I think Jim Lampley influenced alot of viewers with his biased commentary. I'm not going to give Taylor credit for blocked shots. Winky landed the cleaner shots throughout the fight. And what did taylor do to win the 12 round? Winky landed a few punches early in the round and taylor was unable to land much of anything. I am not a big fan of Winky Wright, but I knew exactly where he was comming from in his postfight talk.

Jim Lampley's is now a joke in my mind. But I see why he blatantly calls a fight in favor of the HBO favorite. It actually DOES sway public opinion. George forman or roy jones would have corrected Lampley....."another hard blow for taylor.....great combo for taylor....wright may be hurt"

Roy - "Jim, Winky blocked all of those punches"

Taylor seems like a decent guy out of the ring, but this shit is getting rediculous.

[intoccabile]

Same thing i was thinkiing MD.

There were so many blocked shots.
Like With Soliman... people were actually arguing in solimans favor because of his output.

Blocked shots are blocked shots.. winky's style is just that for a reason.
It was a good fight, and i saw winky winning the 12th too lol.

Winky landed 4 jabs moving backward, and 2 straight lefts in the 12th (his only output).
Taylors output in this round wasnt much, at 1:09 he tossed a flurry that hit
winky's elbows and forearms.. but did manage to land a 2 jabs (lol watched this round over
and over again)

[popit]

i got this fight for winky. i havent seen the fight as i was fuckin shooting pool and shit and won about 200$ i have 600$ on this fight for winky but as soon as i remember that the fight was today it was over. dirtyfeet, do you believe my picks now? LOL i told you winky just likes the way taylor fight coz taylor moves a lot and winky will just put his gaurd up with his long ass arms from gut to mid part of the head then start swaying. its like lean glitching LOL

[intoccabile]

nah man. Thats dangerous and thats why oppinions started swaying.
No one knows just how durable winky is.. and his style is not one
to use against a guy like Taylor.. who's naturally a rough'em up type of guy..

so it was dangerous man.. and taylor tried to slam hi sway through winky's guard
but winky is solid man.. he's seriously tough to break down and his guard
is damn near impossible to penetrate after tonight.

So winky surpised alot o fpeople by just showing that his shell
is no joke.. it really cant be cracked LOL. and if it can, he did a good
job hiding it.

[ctheprodigyb]

yea people are saying that almost all of JTs punchs just hit gloves and thats true BUT he was hitting him so hard that Winkys own gloves were busting up his face and actually stopping Wink in his tracks, so i had to take that into consideration..

Watch that fight again as i did, everytime Taylor throws that right straight Winky is backed up, and in the 8th i believe Taylor actually landed a combo that appeared to hurt Winky, IMHO Winky never hurt Taylor and that is why he kept going to the ropes where Winky was landing punchs, he was trying to sit there and wait to land a big shot, but he said in his post fght that Winky was just to fast and got out before he could let it go. but this is evidence that Taylor never worried about Wink.

I also believe Taylors Eye really damaged him in the late rounds as you could tell he had a very hard time seeing i think this is why Wink may have taken a few late rounds. ohh well were all different but i didnt let the commentators influence me 1 bit, i watched the fight and scored it fairly.

As far as Winky vs PBF...that is an interesting fight, i dont think PBF wants this fight, hes not a big fan of southpaws and i think he would have trouble adjusting to Winkys style, and believe it or not i think Wink has enough power to hurt PBF. i see the first 4 rounds EASY for Winky, then PBF would begin to get his barrings and really kill Winky with his speed, he would circle around Winkys jab andmake him pay, Winky appeared tired at the end of his fight with JT so i see him tiring at the end of this also and getting beat in a very close decision... With that said it could easily go Winkys way and i dont think Floyd would want to take this fight.

[intoccabile]

Yeh me neither.
Floyd called it out after his fight with Mitchell, and
it was laughable because winky had just beaten Tito
and it was obvious he wanted to be at Middle.
With the name he's made for himself now,
i dont see any name opponent really looking for a fight
with winky.. but if the money's right its a possibility, and
a damn good fight. Winky's getting up there in age,
hopefully something big will happen fast.

As for watching the fight again, i did. I still had the same
oppinion at the end aswell. True winky never hurt taylor.. but
does he hurt anyone? LOL. He's damn near powerless.. for that
reason alone i cant judge by who hurt who.. but who did what.

i personally thought winky did the better job in the fight.

As for PBF. someone with decent reflexes to catch
winky as soon as he comes out his shell is all it takes.. and
pbf is that person (remember how well he timed his
hooks against Chico's punches? jesus christ)

As soon as winky openes, theres the stiff right cross...
fast as hell too..

[mdterp]

Intoccable, I agree with your pre-fight analysis 100% That was my line of thinking as well. I thought that winky's gaurd wouldn't be able to hold up to Taylors powerful barrages and physical strength. I had cash on Taylor, but damn.....Winky wright is the truth and backed taylor up all night.

In my opinion, Taylor wasn't able to break through Winky's gaurd ENOUGH to take rounds. Taylor did break through the gaurd once in a while and land some real hard punches. Taylor on the other hand was constantly hit with very clean combinations to the face. Taylors blocked shots did do some damage though I guess. I just dont give them the same weight as clean combination punching by winky. To me the rounds were easy to score, but I guess it commes down to how you score punches. I don't give credit for clearly blocked shots. Sure the punches were very hard and pushed winky back when they hit his arms......it might look good, but to me they didn't score.

BTW, I thought wright got Taylors attention very early in the fight with hard hooks to the body. Taylor dropped his hands because he wanted to avoid those body shots.

Taylor seems like a good guy and all, but I can't help but to start hoping for him to lose after these last few decisions. You have to dominate taylor to win a round it seems.


Oh, and PBF is great, but he'll lose badly to the larger Winky. FLoyd is not a volume puncher, nor a physical powerhouse( two things that could possibly give winky trouble ). FLoyd would have a hard time getting through winkys gaurd and jab. Winky would literally laugh at any clean shots floyd did get in and would probably win it easy.

[d1rtyfeet]

popit said:

i got this fight for winky. i havent seen the fight as i was fuckin shooting pool and shit and won about 200$ i have 600$ on this fight for winky but as soon as i remember that the fight was today it was over. dirtyfeet, do you believe my picks now? LOL i told you winky just likes the way taylor fight coz taylor moves a lot and winky will just put his gaurd up with his long ass arms from gut to mid part of the head then start swaying. its like lean glitching LOL

so u bet on winky?

[SryNoAutographs]

I wouldn't bet on winky against PBF

[SryNoAutographs]

Shit I wouldn't even bet on Winky in a Winky/JT II